In our first interview style episode, Mike sits down with friend, fellow NAVHDA Judge, trainer, and mom-extraordinaire, Des Stormont, to learn about her journey. This episode covers learning from mistakes (Bird Dog Tuition as she calls it), working through the weight of expectation when training for a test, and adding a toddler into training, testing, and hunting her dogs.

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